mbremerli (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

dis is art

joycegarten (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Unbelivable! Great! I love it. What a impression. Thank you.

willowthebored (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Those points I won't bother to debate, you're completely correct, of course.

kazowa (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

i like pachbell for my favorite organist, but for bach i love his inventions and such but i also like his brandenburg

jrssjdca (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Here's another thing. Guys like Chopin, Beethoven, Mozart, et al were influenced by Bach on a grand scale and Chopin himself was said to practice nothing but Bach before his concerts. I read up on the toccata in Wikipedia, and despite its "simplicity" is still a ridiculously complex piece of music. The Brandenburgs may have been the most complex from what I've read, but the toccata for anyone else still represents a monumental task for anyone less than Bach to try to compose.

willowthebored (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Actually, I think Pachalbel was a little bit later than this... :)

willowthebored (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I think this is a case of the 'I Hate Pink Floyd' syndrome...our friend here doesn't understand that you don't actually *have* to attack the established standards to make a statement, it's just the easiest way of getting attention. Bach For The Win, even this piece with it's slightly dubious accreditation.

jrssjdca (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

The key to the toccata being permanently attributed to Bach is the "mystique." Would the Bach listening public want to believe that he didn't write it? Probably not. Unless I read in the paper that someone else wrote it due to some new finding, then I'd go on thinking that it was Bach himself. I personally think the piece is so perfect that only someone like Mozart who was a genius could have done it. Anyone else wasn't up to the task.

jrssjdca (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I've been following Bach since I was a kid, and there had never been mention of the toccata being written by someone else. I have the "greatest organ works" vinyl collection and the booklet doesn't mention it either. The scholars would seem to have uncovered something by now. I only saw it on YouTube. I think it's plausible to consider the "simplicity" being that it was written while he was still a "young pup" and his talents rose markedly when he matured. Even happens to geniuses.

cooluser94 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

holy shit thats amazing!!!! it took me forever to learn this on piano!