sammyboy212 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

sorry, I meant prolife. And yes, I am prochoice.

madcowhunter (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Pro choice is pro death. 20 weelks old fetus is not baby 21 weeks fetus is baby? Who can decide about it? In most cases the whole problem is about accepting responsibility for our actions. Except for rape and when woman's life is in danger. However these are just rhetoric excueses to justify public funding of all abortions on demand for every woman. How many people seriously abort beacause of these 2 reasons?? 5-8%? Why should we sacrifice baby's life because of our irresponisbility

sammyboy212 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Yes, horrible people like Hitler were prochoice, like with guns control but we weren' the greatest either.Our "heros" weren't the greatest as well. FDR as well as Churchill were alcoholics, & it affected their jobs at times. Einstein was verbally &physically abusive to his wife. Benjamin Franklin, who emphasized chastity, had a plethora of mistresses across France and the colonies. And Herbert Hoover was a member of the KKK before becoming president! So don't play those cards, because I can too.

AIAHeadQuarters (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

stfu lil piss of shit dumbfucking scum

sammyboy212 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

wow, you obviously have no compassion for victims of rape. If you were raped, your personal body violated, and you now have the sperm of the raper in you? Do you know what that can do mentally to you? A lot of people have committed suicide because they were raped, and now they have to give birth to it? You have no compassion.

CharmedSistersP3 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Pro choice.. is just pro-murder. I don't see the difference between killing a 1 month old baby and aborting a fetus.

CrazyGothicChick (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I believe that womens rights to life, good health (mental & physical), to choose to remain preg. or not, to choose if someone/something can use her as its' parasitic host, & to choose whether or not someone/something can live inside her are actually there & better than the rights to be parasitic, use its mother as its parasitic host, live inside its' mother, kill its mother, cause physical & mental harm to its mother, & to take away its mothers rights that pro-lifers say a fetus has when it dont

CrazyGothicChick (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

The 15.1 I used was from the World Health Organization in 2004. If you want the death rate for women of color in the USA it's 4/3,311 and for hispanics it's about 1.6/3,311 live births. Ghiz, how do you know most women are willing to get pregnant? I know you haven't talked to most women (that's impossible), and I know there haven't been studies that asked most women if they'd like to be pregnant. There are a lot of women that want tobe preg., a lot that don't, and a lot with other opinions.

CrazyGothicChick (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

1/4800 women die because of childbirth related probs. w/i 1 yr in the USA. Add that to the 15.1 maternal death/100,000 live births (Thats 151/1mil live births). That's about 1 death / 6,622.5 births. If you include the women that die from childbirth related causes that's a around 2 / 6,622.5. Rounded down to 6,622 thats 1 death / 3,311 births... That rate includes preg/birth related deaths that occur after the child(ren) are born. Is it high enough for YOU since u think u can choose 4 everyone?

ambrocal (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

ghiz "ambrocal simply named a bunch of dictators that were prolife and implied that all prolifers were bad ppl, implying that that makes prolife the wrong choice" NOT TRUE, YOU started to link Hitler to abortion implying all pro choicers are nazis, THEN I replied that not only Hitler was pro life but other dictators too. That was a reaction to YOUR strategy in putting pro choicers down.